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Sergeant Acht Scultz
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Posted - 2013.01.15 17:50:00 -
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Hans Hoff wrote:Hi Guys. I just bought a new comp with widows 8 on it. This may be great for people who are into touch screen monitors and Ti Chi but it's not for me. I put in my tried and true XP disk but I cant get the boot to get it running. EvE attracts people of over average intelligence therefore I posted on here because I'm sure that one of you guys will be able to give me the information I need to ditch the chit and get back to XP. Thanks in advance for any help and suggestions. Regards Dave
Win8 does not require touch screens: check
Win8 works perfectly with keyboard/mouse: check
Win8 start way faster than win7 : check way faster on turn off: also check
Windows 8 Metro interface sucks ass: also check -can you change it? -absolutely
Downside: Eve is better suited for Win XP than even Windows Vista (terrible)
Conclusion: You should try to buy an old Pentium to play eve and keep you new PC for everything else.
For the "I put in my tried and true XP disk but I cant get the boot to get it running." -you obviously didn't understood you can. |

Sergeant Acht Scultz
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Posted - 2013.01.15 18:27:00 -
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Tippia wrote:You can't disable the metro framework without disabling Win8 entirely.
I can not agree on this, maybe I'm misunderstanding the point you're trying to make but I have no problem at all with Win8 features/stuff/my usual work programs and games (except Eve)
I have actually this one disabled (metro) and I see no difference at all in performance or whatever point you're trying to make. Gaming benchmarks give me the exact same numbers, Overclocking bench's give me the same numbers, I'm still using Firefox and every other program I used to (professional) without a single issue, I can play even that terrible Blacklight Retribution FPS game with GC settings on top without a problem, it's just Eve that runs that bad on it for me which is not and will never be a valid reason for me to not upgrade from my previous OS.
What is exactly that doesn't run at all or badly when you disable the Metro interface? -personally I can't see the difference but I'm missing something maybe.
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Sergeant Acht Scultz
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Posted - 2013.01.15 20:06:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Windows 8, should you actually be able to hack out all of MetroGǪ which you can't. You can't get rid of Metro any more than you could get rid of GDI in XP.
Except those live services I don't need at all (the ones disabled and some suppressed), I see no difference at all. My bureau is exactly the same as it was with previous OS version, some small stuff changed how I can access to it but it's clearly easier and faster for me.
Do I need live mail? -no Do I need IE? -no Do I need whatever live crap information delivered with Metro interface? -no
Does it run my favorite mail/office/browser/upload/download faster than ever? -yes Do I want to get the best out of my hardware? -yes Is Win8 well suited for this? -I'm not an expert so I trust all those pro/con expert arguments and got to the conclusion, for my use, this Win8 is just excellent, actually it's the very first time I'm happy with a Win version after XP
It's just me but I really think people don't like the "touch screen" like interface and got bitter without even trying to adapt or actually use it. Those who already did and after a couple days to get used to it clearly see the performance difference.
Anyway, we can disagree in specific terms or uses etc it's ok, I can also accept CCP not willing to provide more support for Win8 than Linux or Mac after all it's their business, where I'm a little bit disappointed is the fact I'll have to get rid of my favorite game at some point because it got too old for my "not that new" stuff and can't play it correctly. This sucks, but I can live with it as I did when I couldn't find DOS games anymore (don't even know if those still exist hehe) |

Sergeant Acht Scultz
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Posted - 2013.01.16 13:04:00 -
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Gerald Taric wrote:Well, if the computers BIOS does now allow to boot from other sources than from hard drive by hitting F8, then it's very likely being diabled in BIOS settings.
The only ones right now I can get out of my hat being a real pain in the arse to do something with are those with pre installed OS directly with manufacturer own install CD (HP for example) and laptops. Even then with simple tools you can perfectly physically format whatever HD and install whatever you want, it's just a little bit tricky some times but you need base understanding/knowledge about hardware/bios and patience.
In OP's case, and reading his question, seems he should ask some friends around him to do this. Can you get rid od win8? -yes Can you install XP instead-yes Can you partition and install 2 different OS?-yes Can you use some feature to let you choose which one to boot? -probably, Win8 seems a bit different from my previous versions for this but there's always a more or less tricky workaround.
If you don't know what you're doing, just don't. |

Sergeant Acht Scultz
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Posted - 2013.01.16 16:45:00 -
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Denidil wrote:Oh goes! The start menu changed. The sky is falling, this is the end of the world!
You know I agree that it is less useful on touch devices but stop acting like a moron. There are good feature enhancements and perf improvements in win8. Just install one of the free or cheap 3rd party programs that restore the start menu
Yep, DL ClassicSHell 3.6.5 seem way too hard...
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